Jesse’s guest is Zac Gandara, creator of the Losing Our Religion podcast. Zac shares his story of transition from megachurch pastor to heathen podcaster, triggered by a near-fatal congenital kidney issue. Jesse and Zac discuss their mutual desire to see Star Trek philosophy applied to real life, and fall down the existential rabbit hole.

LOSING OUR RELIGION: http://www.losingourreligion.org/

Watch Jesse stream Mario Maker as discussed in this episode on his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/jessemercuryscifi

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